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Posted by AmanfromMars on 10/27/2010 6:28:18 AM

"No, it is you who are not really understanding John Danforth's point, which is correct, by the way. "..... Posted by Aaron Brown on 10/27/2010 1:32:29 AM

Aaron,

Pleased be advised that I fully understand John Danforth's point, and those which you also share here, but do not necessarily agree with them. Things have changed and are not as they were before.

"Danforth is spot on when he says the problem is that the money was given out in the first place. " ..... That appears to be one of those problems which is used as a solution, and on many occasions by many different actors, and is something you will have to deal with as an is and reality, rather than burying your head in the sand and preferring that it be a shouldn't be in your dreams.

http://thedailybell.com/1475/Ron-Paul-Government-and-Job-Creation.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 10/27/2010 11:46:54 AM

"Perhaps it is unworthy of me, but I will continue to strive to deprive them of this power, which they hold only through the ignorance of their victims. I will continue to work to educate the victims, so that eventually they will withdraw their permission. (And they will, eventually.)" ..... Posted by John Danforth on 10/27/2010 8:49:01 AM

A laudable cause worthy of any human being, John. And one which has many disciples ..... and some would even say it is quite an alien concept, for it is somewhat otherworldly, is it not.

And while I would easily agree with everything you have said, you might like to accept that not all corrupted by unearned loot ... "The more crucial point is that whoever takes the unearned loot is corrupted by it." ..... for some are energised by it to provide greater wealth for all at the expense of no one, although it may be that they are fewer in number than others who would ignorant and arrogant in their good fortune.

Working from within the System, with capital resources, allows for rapid and stealthy progress which battling against the System from outside can never ever hope to come close to matching.

http://thedailybell.com/1475/Ron-Paul-Government-and-Job-Creation.html
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Posted by: amanfromMars | 10/27/10 | 2:59 am |

"The control panel looks like something from the original Star Trek. The good thing is modern era hackers probably don’t have a clue how these 60’s vintage control systems work and they probably don’t interface with modern systems anyway. An example where its good to have a human in the loop." .... Posted by: mwilk | 10/26/10 | 7:03 pm |
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And that argument falls flat on its face, mwilk, if you realise that there are probably vintage hackers who know more than just a little about how all control systems work, for they have been building them since before they became virtually ubiquitous and essential/viral and vital.

"The cause of the failure remains unknown, although it is suspected to be a breach of underground cables deep beneath the base, according to a senior military official.
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It is next to impossible for these systems to be hacked, so the military does not believe the incident was caused by malicious actors." ..... http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/10/failure-shuts-down-squadron-of-nuclear-missiles/65207/
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Next to impossible is possible, and whenever possible is it then most probable and very likely that the systems are hacked/cracked, although I wouldn't dispute the belief that the incident wasn't caused by malicious actors but rather more some seriously smart beings/agents/programs.
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All of which suggests a transfer of quite awesome power to an anonymous invisible force, which in its turn, creates a colossal enigma and massive future zeroday vulnerability/opportunity to be addressed ...... and denied in Compromised Command and Control Computer Launching Circles.

Although whether that is an in-house, home team pissing contest/demonstration for more Pork by an Establishment Power Player now branching out into Renegade Rogue Mercenary Territory or A.N.Other and Foreign Virtual Terrain Team Exercise, is something else for consideration in these Tempestuous Times and Semantic Spaces.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/10/communications-dropped-to-50-nuke-missiles-in-icbm-snafu/
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Just a Glitch .... Nothing to See here, Honest ...... Please Move On. Thanks Suckers/Seeders.

Posted Wednesday 27th October 2010 06:09 GMT

"Big Blue's Big Sam gets $10bn for bonus stock boost .... IBM wastes cash, sidelines innovation"

Timothy, Is that the same as runs out of new ideas? That would then have Big Blue reliant and fully dependent on ideas it would need to be phishing and phorming from its global client base .... which is a stealthy Intellectual Property theft move which cannot be good for business .... or Wall Street and the NYSE.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/10/26/ibm_share_buybacks_waste/
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 10/27/2010 11:24:25 AM

Re: Posted by WuYeYouMin on 10/27/2010 4:30:08 AM

"This is a perspective from within China:.... http://www.asianresearch.org/articles/3054.html " ..... WuYeYouMin, That article is over three years old and, given the rate of change in China, is unlikely to be something that anyone can rely on as being accurate.

And perhaps China should sell its goods at a higher price, for as the article shows, the retail price bears absolutely no relationship to the wholesale price or cost of manufacture, which is always the problem with a capitalist profit culture, with profit being just an arbitrarily decided figure tacked onto a base number creating an artificially expensive market and is essentially a money for nothing promotion, which is really something, isn't it.

When everything, as everything invariably is, is loaded with profit at every stage of manufacture and distribution and sale, will everything always rise in price to a level which very soon becomes unaffordable.

http://thedailybell.com/1473/Why-the-West-is-Losing.html
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