"In Switzerland, every able bodied male 18 to 48 years of age is required to keep an Army issue rifle ready for use at his home. Those Swiss are "dead" serious about that. No joke there.... " .... Posted by Ingo Bischoff on 2/5/2011 12:39:31 AM
Well, whenever you are one of the global centres for money laundering and the stashing of ill gotten gains, as this tale would suggest/prove ...... http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/04/hosni-mubarak-family-fortune ...... is it probably a wise precaution, Ingo Bischoff.
And re KP's post ... Posted by KP on 2/5/2011 5:17:40 AM ... which brought in Egypt and looting to the thread, it seems as if the business of Mubarak & Sons has been looting Egypt and impoverishing Egyptians for, well it takes quite some time, I imagine, to amass seventy thousand million dollars whenever you are not working/have no real job, but holding onto it whenever an educated population discover the deeds that diminish the treasury cupboards is an art which is not without its inherent abiding dangers.
Mubarak though is in good company, for many have preceded him on such a path and many more will follow him whenever there are so many supposed respectable and legitimate institutions and bankers, ready, willing and able and enabled to handle what is probably best described as stolen national treasure.
The City in London is another dodgy centre where every straight kind of a guy in a suit can be as crooked as a counterfeit treasury note for a debt which can and will never be paid. Crime pays don't you know, and obscenely well too, so don't knock it, for that is the System.
Jump in, the water's lovely and warm.
http://thedailybell.com/1735/Central-Banks-Now-Creating-Hyperinflation.html
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amanfromMars
5 February 2011 at 6:51 am
Bummer …. one small mistake in a closing tag and the post is rendered wrong. Please remove 5 February 2011 at 6:43 am and leave this in its place, Mick. Thanks
"That’s strictly not true, it’s the Irish banks who stiff the Irish taxpayer, who stiff the German banks who stiff the German taxpayer.
I am slightly disconcerted at how the people who have actually borrowed and lent the money are now being left out of the equation." .... George, 4 February 2011 at 12:23 am
Surely, George, that is not true. Is it not the Irish government, led by the genius of Brian Cowen who stiffed the Irish taxpayer and shafted its population right good and proper, as this little anecdote from the Vanity Fair article reveals ....."Cowen happens also to have been the minister of finance from 2004 until mid-2008, when most of the bad stuff happened. He is not an obvious Leader of Men. His movements are sullen and lumbering, his face numbed by corpulence, his natural resting expression a look of confusion. One morning a few weeks before, he went on national radio sounding, to well-trained Irish ears, drunk. To my less trained ones he sounded merely groggy, but the public is in no mood to cut him a break. (Four different Irish people told me, on great authority, that Cowen had faxed Ireland’s 440-billion-euro bank guarantee into the European Central Bank from a pub.) And the truth is, if you were to design a human being to maximize the likelihood that people would assume he drank too much, you’d have a hard time doing better than the Irish prime minister."
Methinks the stiffing and shafting of the population by its executive administration is never ever any part of the deal in any nation, and thus are any and all such dodgy deals, both unlawful and unconstitutional and therefore null and void, and would be very liable to criminal proceedings and public prosecution.
And I just love the understatement in .... "I am slightly disconcerted at how the people who have actually borrowed and lent the money are now being left out of the equation" ..... which is mirrored equally well in the Vanity Fair piece, [which incidentally is a right entertaining read too, with some pearls of typical Irish humour within*] with ..... "In retrospect, now that the Irish bank losses are known to be world-historically huge, the decision to cover them appears not merely odd but suicidal. A handful of Irish bankers incurred debts they could never repay, of something like 100 billion euros. They may have had no idea what they were doing, but they did it all the same. Their debts were private—owed by them to investors around the world—and still the Irish people have undertaken to repay them as if they were obligations of the state. For two years they have labored under this impossible burden with scarcely a peep of protest."
Quite why the man and woman in the street, with many of them living in real enough fear of being put out into the street because of the "leadership" shown by the ponzi self-serving banking system and incompetent politicians, are not fcuking furious and looking for blood, is slightly disconcerting for it shows a complete and utter lack of respect and belief in themselves, and that makes them all easy prey to all of those flash foreign gits in fancy suits who now appear to be feasting on their carcass, to keep their Ponzi running ...."The most obvious change in the country’s politics has been the role played by foreigners. The Irish government and Irish banks are crawling with American investment bankers and Australian management consultants and faceless Euro-officials, referred to inside the Department of Finance simply as “the Germans.” Walk the streets at night and, through restaurant windows, you see important-looking men in suits, dining alone, studying important-looking papers. In some new and strange way Dublin is now an occupied city: Hanoi, circa 1950."
*"What happened was that everyone in Ireland had the idea that somewhere in Ireland there was a little wise old man who was in charge of the money, and this was the first time they’d ever seen this little man,” says McCarthy. “And then they saw him and said, "Who the fuck was that??? Is that the fucking guy who is in charge of the money???" That’s when everyone panicked."
And has anything fundamental changed in the banking sector since Flash Gordon Brown saved the world and the banks crashed, or have debts soared ever higher to be never repaid, but with the people now being charged and loaded with the losses to keep them in their place ..... screwed into the ground at the bottom of the heaps of money circulating amongst bankers with right dodgy friends/cohorts/co-conspirators in the Rape of the Wild Wicked West?
Methinks you know the answer to that question is a resounding NO, NOTHING HAS FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGED AND THE SITUATION IS WORSE THAN EVER.
So Fix it. Dump the Old Crooked System and start an New SMARTer System. Or are y'all gonna say/gurn/cry/whine/shout that it is not as easy as that, whenever with IT and Virtual Controls, is it as simple as that? To deny it so easy just means that it is something which you cannot do, but that does not mean that it cannot be done by Others into Fields of Virtual Control with IT. Capiche.
And methinks, Gerry is of a not dissimilar disposition. Certainly his campaigning rhetoric is not of the traditional subservient line to the status quo arrangements, which have so catastrophically failed to deliver anything but chaos and crippling poverty, with massive private debts unconstitutionally nationalised to save useless banks, for a country now "owned" because of the dodgy national guarantee, by foreigners with the backing of nothing more substantial than a money printing press of their own too.
And if the Irish just bend over and take it, like good little boys and girls, whether it pleases them or not, what does that tell you about them and the System? And you who would know of them and the System and their plight, and who would do nothing, and be then by pathetic and apathetic default, a contributory part of the ongoing catastrophe?
Nunoftheabove, I congratulate you on the post 4 February 2011 at 6:08 pm, it provides a crystal clarity to a murky episode.:-) And every Irishman and woman will understand it perfectly to see the inequity which renders the present situation and its apparent present resolutions and drunken arrangements, both totally unacceptable and grossly unfair and therefore also illegal and unlawful [should there be any significant semantic difference between the two words]
Seems like the pub could do with a new barman too. What says the Reader, who wrote ..... "Nunoftheabove: Give you that but….mandate to do so would you say ?
Do they need a specific mandate so long as it doesn’t breach the constitution? It doesn’t matter anyway. There will be a new steering committee soon, who will get another chance to decide whether to seriously piss off the barman."....Reader, 4 February 2011 at 10:35 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5y_gE1Rb1Y&playnext=1&list=PL8EFC5FBD0E6010EF
http://sluggerotoole.com/2011/02/03/bank-debt-crisis-what-happens-when-the-irish-taxpayer-stiffs-the-german-taxpayer/
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Of course, what Rupert is missing, is an "application" which provides news for his media arms to promote/produce. Which is why his empire is collapsing and losing cash and credibility in political circles at an alarming rate.....................................................................................................................................................................
Isn't that right, Rupert?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/comment/stephen-foley-fed-chief-bernanke-spells-out-home-truths-on-financing-the-future-2205170.html
Why are they lying to you ? ..... is a valid question.
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/5/2011 10:25:39 AM
Why would a supposedly strong economic nation like Germany want to be lumbered with a weak self serving institution like the EU, which appears to be a collapsing money pit administered by useless bureaucrats with no strong ties to any nation. Surely one would be expecting Frau Merkel to be championing the Germans being in control of their own destiny and economy and society, and ditching the counterfeiter and launderers' friend, the Euro and start using Neue Deutsche Mark.
http://thedailybell.com/1738/Anthony-Wile-EU-Franco-German-Hustle-Spells-More-Trouble.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/5/2011 9:57:23 AM
"Don't think Assange is doing alternative news interviews ..." .... Reply from the Daily Bell
Why don't you ask him, DB? A refusal by him to answer questions for/from a more discerning audience would probably indicate to all here that he is indeed a fraud, fearful of his words/metadata being analysed. He would know the power of that simple exercise. Or he should if he is in the psyops business, for without it are you easily tumbled/crashed and burned.
And should he be the real McCoy and readily accept your invitation, will his ego surely enjoy the outing as much as his conscience would the airing and sharing to readers here.
Surely Assange is all about alternative news and views, which cannot be dismissed as fiction by main stream media for they paint a more real and believable and acceptable picture, even if what is being painted is totally unacceptable to the programmed masses. That is the Great Game being played, is it not? Uncovering the real acceptable truth in the midst of all the main stream media lies and fabrications?
Words control Worlds .... and that makes the sharing of them quite important, and why some folk go into dumb mode whenever their shenanigans have been rumbled.
http://thedailybell.com/1734/New-Revelations-Show-WikiLeaks-Psyops.html
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amanfromMars....................................................................................................................................................................
5 February 2011 at 6:42 pm
slappymcgroundout, [who posted 5 February 2011 at 3:01 pm] Hi.
You have a beef against the Chinese, slappymcgroundout? Would you care to share what your problem is with them?
http://sluggerotoole.com/2011/02/05/time-for-the-americans-to-retreat-but-who-will-take-their-place/
Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/5/2011 2:11:39 PM
"You are evidently being ironic." .... Reply from the Daily Bell
I must admit that I made a right hash of that then, DB, for I was aiming for teutonically pragmatic. Ah well, no matter. Que Sera, Sera.
http://thedailybell.com/1738/Anthony-Wile-EU-Franco-German-Hustle-Spells-More-Trouble.html
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amanfromMars.....................................................................................................................................................................
5 February 2011 at 7:01 pm
Hi, Greenflag,
I wonder if this little clever, and quite subversive because it is so very informative and educational, video, ….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yipV_pK6HXw ….. will reach anywhere near the same 4,164,827 views [and counting] as its Big Brother, “Quantitative Easing Explained” …… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTUY16CkS-k&feature=related
Uncle Sam certainly doesn’t have its worries to seek, that’s for sure, whenever so many within the Admin and Capitalism are hell bent on destroying it with Ignorant Incompetence and Arrogant Hubris from within.
http://sluggerotoole.com/2011/02/03/bank-debt-crisis-what-happens-when-the-irish-taxpayer-stiffs-the-german-taxpayer/
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